Wiggy Wigowski Interview (October 21st, 2015)

Wiggy interviewing Green Ant

I met Wiggy in Delaware at Tournament of Death in 2015. She was helping to run the CZW merch booth. At the time, I didn't know she hosted her own radio show and worked for Filsinger Games. She mentioned to me that Bleed for a Living was her ringtone!

Particle Don: When did you become interested in wrestling?

Wiggy: I started watching WWF/E when I was 8 with my dad.

Particle Don: Did you start out watching WWE and then move to the indies?

Wiggy: I followed a lot when I was little, less so as I got older, then became completely fed up with WWE and stopped watching entirely in 2003. In 2004, I discovered indy wrestling and everything changed. It was love at first sight. On my birthday in March 2005, I took an 8 hour train ride to Quebec City for my first indy show. I have been going to them ever since!

I got back into WWE in 2013 sort of by accident. I was at a bar after a show and they were airing a PPV. It was Payback, I think. It was the one where the Shield won all their belts. Jon Moxley (Dean Ambrose) and Tyler Black (Seth Rollins) got me back into WWE, haha.

Particle Don: Who were a few of your favorite wrestlers early on?

Wiggy: Bret Hart was my favorite. He was my first love for years. I'm a good Canadian, haha. Later on I liked Brian Pillman, Eddie Guerrero and Raven. My first indy favorite was CM Punk.

Particle Don: You host a podcast at PantslessRadio.com. You've interviewed many top indy wrestlers, including Mike Bailey, Lufisto, AR Fox and Danny Havoc. What got you interested in starting a podcast? Did you host any other shows before you were a part of Pantsless Radio?

Wiggy: One of my best friends had a couple of wrestling podcasts. I sat in with him a few times when the regular co-host couldn't make it. It was always so much fun! Pantsless Radio actually started off as an inside joke with a few buddies, and then we sort of just did it. I honestly expected it to last maybe a month before we got bored of it. Five and a half years later, here we are.

Particle Don: Pantsless Radio has a long and illustrious history. You've had many co-hosts, including Sexxxy Eddy. How did you meet your most recent co-host, Miss Yolanda? Is she still on the show?

Wiggy: Miss Yolanda is definitely still on the show. Occasionally, our schedules just don't mesh and I have to do things on my own, but she's my partner in crime. We had known of each other forever, and had a ton of mutual friends. We finally met in 2012.

Wiggy with Yolanda

Particle Don: How did you decide upon the name Pantsless Radio?

Wiggy: Pantslessness in general had been a running joke with my friends including the aforementioned podcast host. A bunch of us were talking one night, and they wanted to start a little podcast network. I suggested Pantsless Radio, which they promptly shot down, but I remembered it when the show was started. It wasn't originally a wrestling show. It was...kind of not about anything actually. Whatever we could think of to talk about. The name fit more later.

Particle Don: LuFisto was your first interview for the podcast back in 2010. Did you learn anything during that experience that you've applied to future interviews?

Wiggy: People are far more interested in listening to a conversation than a series of questions. Wrestlers are far more interested in carrying on a conversation than being asked the same things they've answered a million times before. I make a lot of jokes about how terrible my show is, but I actually pride myself on the fact that my guests always have fun. That's my goal more than anything, to give the guest and the listener an interview full of stuff they've never heard or been asked before.

Particle Don: How has the show changed over the years?

Wiggy: Oh wow, so much. It was originally just a couple friends bullshiting, then it became a sex and relationship show (which is when the name first became applicable), then it became a relationship/sex/wrestling show then finally just wrestling albeit with a healthy dose of, what I hope is, random hilarity.

Particle Don: Being from Canada, how often do you travel far distances to see wrestling shows?

Wiggy: 2-3 times a year now. Tournament of Death is a must. I try to see Cage of Death every year to celebrate Christmas with my American friends. I might go to another one throughout the year.

I work for Filsinger Games, and this past August I went to Cleveland for Wrestling Geekfest, their convention and wrestling show. I'd be down to travel every month if it was financially feasible. I'm still working on teaching myself how to teleport. If anyone has any tips, hit me up.

Particle Don: Other than IWS, what are a few Canadian promotions that the American fans should check out?

Wiggy: C*4, Alpha-1 and Smash.

Particle Don: Are you excited to go to your first IWS show, after being a fan of them for so long? What are you expecting?

Wiggy: I am very excited. This has been 10 years in the making for me and I cannot wait. I'm expecting a lot of craziness, blood, violence and a super hot crowd. And people to teach me how to curse in French.

Particle Don: How come you haven't been to an IWS show before, seeing how you watch so much live wrestling?

Wiggy: Distance, money and the fact that I don't like going to shows alone. Montreal's 6 or so hours from Toronto, so to go to a show up there, I need to stay overnight. Most of my friends are Americans in the Philly/Jersey/New York area, so it generally makes more sense to go to the States for a weekend of shows and see all my friends as opposed to spending so much money to go to a show in Montreal.

Particle Don: How are Canadian wrestling crowds different from American crowds?

Wiggy: I really don't think they are different. There's assholes trying to get themselves over in both. There's people who just want to have a good time in both. There's smarks and dumb chants in both. The only major difference I ever notice is Canadian crowds seem much less inclined to chant "You fucked up!" after a miscue, which I'm kind of proud of.

Particle Don: If possible, give us a list of all the federations you've seen live.

Wiggy: Whoa. CZW, WWE, ROH, AIW, EVOLVE, DGUSA, Kaiju Big Battel, Wrestle Reunion, Chikara, ISW, C*4, EWR, W1W, Smash, Squared Circle, UWA Hardcore, BSE, Alpha-1, FIGHT!, Abbadon, Lucha TO, Destiny, Superkick'd, $5 Wrestling, UNION and there's at least 2 more I can't remember the names of. That's off the top of my head.

Particle Don: You run Danny Havoc's official Twitter page. How did you meet Havoc? And how did you convince him to get a Twitter account?

Wiggy: I met him about two and a half years ago at an ISW show in Ottawa. I was selling merch for ISW next to him, and we chatted and drank. Long story short, there was a lot of drinking, as well as the borrowing of a mutual friend's car and passing out in the back of it, haha.

He actually did something very sweet for me that day. He likely doesn't even remember it. A few months later I hit him up for an interview and while talking, I told him he needed a new website and offered to make him one. He probably just thought I was being nice but it was my way of thanking him for sticking up for me. I told him for promoting sake, the site needed a Twitter account. I promised him that if he'd let me make one, he'd never have to deal with it himself. To this day, he's never sent out a single tweet.

Particle Don: Tell us about the one and only time you met Drake Younger. Didn't you say it was at a CHIKARA show? What city were you in?

Wiggy: It was! I met Drake at Young Lion's Cup 2008 in Hellertown, PA. I went to the show spoiler-free, and didn't know he was in it. I popped when I saw him, and talked to him after the show for a bit. In another long story, I had a 12 foot stuffed snake with me. I rarely get photos with wrestlers, but I had to get one with Drake. I asked him and he said, "Sure thing. As long as we get the snake in it too." So I have a picture of me and Drake wrapped up in a giant snake.

Drake n' Snake with Wiggy at a CHIKARA show

Particle Don: How long have you been involved with Filsinger Games? What do you do for the company?

Wiggy: I've been working with them for two and a half years. Initially, I hosted a podcast with the owner of the company, Tom Filsinger. Since Tom has moved out west, there's been an adjustment period and the show has taken a bit of a backseat. I asked to be more involved in the game production since we haven't been doing the show as regularly, and I actually got to write bios for the last CZW set. That was really exciting and nerve wracking, but I had a lot of people tell me they liked it. I look forward to doing more things like that in the future.

Filsinger Games produces tabletop card and dice games with pro-wrestling themes.

Particle Don: How did you help with the Filsinger Games Fest this year in Cleveland?

Wiggy: I did a little bit of everything. I helped with promoting, planning and booking of talent; I worked the door at the show; I filmed a backstage interview and I actually booked the NOI vs. OI4K/Pondo match. By which I mean I told Danny and Devon "You have 12-16 minutes, do whatever you want, but please no blood". I also replied "I don't see why not" when Havoc asked me if they could fight into the crowd. I then forgot to tell my boss that I said that. The look on his face as Dave Crist was thrown over the guard rail was priceless. But in my defense, the crowd loved the match!

Particle Don: Will there be another Wrestling Geek Fest next year?

Wiggy: I certainly hope so.

Particle Don: Have you ever been to an AIW show?

Wiggy: Battle of the Sexes 2 on the first night of Geek Fest was my first AIW show, but I'm a definite fan of theirs.

Particle Don: Do you watch current WWE television? If so, who are a few of your favorites?

Wiggy: I do. Probably unsurprisingly, I like the indy guys. Rollins, Ambrose, Owens, Neville, Kalisto, Cesaro. I absolutely love the New Day. The channel gets changed when Orton, Cena or the Bellas are on.

Particle Don: You seem to be busy with everything you have going on, but do you have any non-wrestling hobbies?

Wiggy: I build websites, although I'm not sure if that counts as non-wrestling related, since several of them are for wrestling or wrestlers. But I really enjoy doing that. I'm a total sports girl. I'll watch nearly anything. I'm super excited my Jays are back in the playoffs this year. I love video games too, but rarely get to play anymore.

Particle Don: You've been to a lot of wrestling shows. Tell us about an experience you've had at an indy show you would never get at a WWE event!

Wiggy: I've chopped guys during matches. The show I met Drake at, I had the snake with me, and a bunch of the guys came over to pet her before and after matches. At Cage of Death 2013, Danny Havoc took a huge fall through a bunch of stuff and landed at my feet. I found a thumbtack and broken glass in my boot afterwards. I once got into an argument with Kevin Steen during a match. The interaction at indy shows is the best!

Particle Don: What's your preferred adult beverage?

Wiggy: Long Island Iced Tea and vodka coolers. I don't drink beer. I'm a terrible Canadian.

Particle Don: What are a few of your favorite movies?

Wiggy: Clue is my all time favorite movie. Chasing Amy, Reality Bites and Secretary were great, too.

Particle Don: What's your favorite video game?

Wiggy: Lunar: The Silver Star.

Particle Don: Do you have a favorite video game system?

Wiggy: Genesis. I'm old school all the way.

Particle Don: What are a few of your favorite bands?

Wiggy: Old school here, too. Guns n' Roses, Metallica, The Offspring, Pearl Jam and Barenaked Ladies.

Particle Don: How did you first hear of Particle Don?

Wiggy: When I was doing a bit of research before interviewing Havoc the first time, I was checking out his old website. He had a list of videos up and one was his theme, Bleed for a Living. I listened to it and loved it. It cracked me up, but was just awesome. That was actually the first thing I asked him about during that interview.

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Particle Don: Do you have a favorite Particle Don song?

Wiggy: Bleed for a Living, of course!

Particle Don: What wrestler should Particle Don write a song about?

Wiggy: Ooooh that's a good one. My favorite wrestlers would be fun. Seth Rollins, New Day and another CZW one, Jon Moxley!

Particle Don: Do you still have Bleed for a Living as your ringtone? (I think that's awesome by the way, even if you've changed it since then)

Wiggy: I do! I'm a major creature of habit. I've tried changing it, but I kept missing calls because I was so used to hearing it.

Particle Don: Throughout history, what is your favorite entrance theme?

Wiggy: Wow, this is so hard. For WWE, it's probably Chris Jericho's Break Down The Walls. There's a lot of awesome indy themes, because they're generally just regular songs. Bleed For a Living is one of the few genuine themes with lyrics. You're responsible for a number of them, actually. All the ones I've heard have been great.

Particle Don: Five years from now, where will George Gatton be in the wrestling business?

Wiggy: I want to say WWE World Heavyweight champion but that's kind of silly. Probably more like IC champ. And I'll be telling people I bought the first ever shirt he sold and trying to sell a certain photo to TMZ.

Particle Don: What would be your dream match?

Wiggy: Wow. I need to stay relatively current with this or I'll never be able to answer it. Jon Moxley vs. Tyler Black vs. Sami Callihan vs. Danny Havoc vs. Kevin Steen vs. Mike Bailey in the Cage of Death.

Particle Don: Who would you like to interview for Pantsless Radio that you have yet to speak with?

Wiggy: Rollins and Ambrose for sure. Despite all the shows I've been to, I never had a chance to meet either of them. Also Xavier Woods. Paul London participated in my tournament to determine the prettiest man in wrestling, and he actually was supposed to be on Pantsless Radio a couple years ago. Really, anyone I enjoy watching.

Particle Don: Do you see Pantsless Radio expanding in the future? What's next on the horizon for the show?

Wiggy: I hope so. I love doing the show, I love doing interviews, I love plugging promotions and wrestlers I'm a fan of. I really just want to keep doing that. I'd definitely like to do more websites for wrestlers. It's such a great creative outlet. I really just want to keep having fun with it all.

Particle Don: Any other thoughts?

Wiggy: I'd like to say thanks to everyone who's ever listened to an episode or checked out a site I run. The fact people actually do is still a little baffling to me. So thank you for all that, and please check out my new site and old interviews at PantslessRadio.com. I love feedback, so feel free to send some. And no matter what, always.....keep....it.....tight.

Wiggy's sites:

Deathmatch Drunkard

Champions of the Galaxy

Panther Comics

Pantsless Radio


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